Tarry for the Nonce

February 17, 2006

Johari and Nohari

Filed under: Anecdotes — lmwalker @ 4:08 pm

This should be interesting . . .

lmwalker’s Johari window
lmwalker’s Nohari window

Be brutal and use a pseudonym if you wish. I’m interested to see the results.

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16 Comments

  1. Hey! I could only find two weakness characteristics in this list and it wouldn’t let me just submit two! It said I had to choose FIVE!

    I don’t like their list. Most of those weaknesses, Laura doesn’t have.

    Comment by auntlori — February 17, 2006 @ 9:00 pm

  2. I dont think I did the the Nohari window correctly. Am I to choose your weaknesses or choose opposites of what I chose before?

    Comment by Brian — February 18, 2006 @ 12:31 am

  3. I dont think I did the the Nohari window correctly. Am I to choose your weaknesses or choose opposites of what I chose before?

    Comment by Brian — February 18, 2006 @ 12:32 am

  4. Brian, you are to choose what you perceive as her weaknesses…choosing opposites makes no real sense to the helpfulness of the test. The ‘inversion’ isn’t in matching the opposite to what you picked; rather, its an inversion of the feel-good test. Note…most people won’t take it because they don’t want to hurt Laura.

    The hardest part to the Nohari window is actually signing your name. But the more people who do this for her, the easier it will be for her to see what other people perceive to be her weaknesses, rather than what she perceives them to be. In fact, others may have better insight than she does as to what her true weaknesses are.

    Realise dear, its done out of love, and I’m sure there’s going to be individual biases based on people’s experience knowing you, and based on how long they’ve known you…where’s Anne when you need her ‘-)

    I’m tempted to do this myself, but it would be hard communicating this to the right size and types of sampling. Then again, email may be most effective. Thanks Laura! 🙂

    Comment by Andrew P. — February 18, 2006 @ 12:56 am

  5. Most of those weaknesses, Laura doesn’t have.

    Laura doesn’t *have* weaknesses.

    l&c/m

    Comment by Janice — February 18, 2006 @ 10:57 pm

  6. Realise dear, its done out of love, and I’m sure there’s going to be individual biases based on people’s experience knowing you, and based on how long they’ve known you…where’s Anne when you need her ‘-)

    What are you, a girl? That is the rudest most pompous thing a guy could say to a woman! You stupid, prissy piss-ant!

    Note…most people won’t take it because they don’t want to hurt Laura.

    Note…ya already did with your pathetic post to try and show us your “feelings” towards Ms. Walker, you idiot.
    If you were a gentleman-which I saw a long time ago was not the case-you would never even have thought of posting such an arrogant and childish “essay” about how we should be honest with one another.
    Well, here’s my “honesty” about you Mr. P:
    you’re a selfish, narcissistic fool, who took this post as an chance to show your soul to the world like a little teenaged schoolgirl.
    You constantly are being the “above the rest of us” which I have let slide due to the fact that I was going at it with Mr. R, but this is where I draw the line with you…numbskull. This is going too far. Get off your high and dry horse, and grow up.

    P.S. you misspelled realize

    Comment by Alistair A. — February 19, 2006 @ 11:15 am

  7. Now, really. Laura, in good faith, has asked for a fair critique of her weaknesses and strengths. Laura has many strengths and few weaknesses.

    In fairness to Laura’s request, it behooves us to be honest.

    It’s my duty as an aunt and godmother to tell you.

    Laura, as we all must agree, is…. too tenderhearted.

    For instance, she refuses to attack a weaker party than herself. And, when she attacks a stronger one, she invariably gets thrashed…

    (there is some truth in that)

    Then again, she makes it a point of never molesting (hmmmm….. the English language has altered a bit since 1880….) an orphan.

    (of course! we are orphans ourselves and know what it is!)

    yes, but it has got about and what is the consequence?

    ….hang it all, I wouldn’t have her absolutely merciless!

    and there’s the problem. until 12 o’clock, I would. After 12, I wouldn’t…….

    have I won my middle-aged way into your girlish heart?

    if so….. please don’t leave me on this pirate ship with all these….. wicked orphans…..

    oh! a bevy of beautiful young maidens!

    (am I, on the whole, plain?

    please don’t say– no, there are the remains of a fine woman about me…… *I* am not the one who asked for a fair and honest critique!)

    Comment by auntlori — February 20, 2006 @ 7:22 am

  8. Am I to understand that, to save her contemptible ego, you dared to practice on her credulous simplicity?!?

    l&c/m

    Comment by janice — February 20, 2006 @ 10:27 am

  9. Am I to understand that, to save her contemptible ego, you dared to practice on her credulous simplicity?!?

    Faithless woman who deceived me — I who trusted so!

    And why?

    For some ridiculous reason, to which however I have no desire to be disloyal, some person in authority…I don’t know who…very likely the astronomer royale, has decided that, for such a beastly month as February twenty-eight days as a rule are plenty, one year in every four, its days shall be reckoned as nine and twenty…

    That there’s the problem in a nutshell.

    Comment by Eleanor — February 20, 2006 @ 11:35 am

  10. That there’s the problem in a nutshell.

    nutshell?

    nutshell?

    are we back to twitchy again?????

    Comment by auntlori — February 20, 2006 @ 1:07 pm

  11. Whooooo. Alistair, chill out. Andrew responded to a request I made, so he’s hardly to blame.

    For the record, he finds me “childish, blas, cynical, inane, withdrawn, predictable.” Other than finding me inane (synonym: insipid,) I can completely understand where the rest of his adjectives are coming from, based on what he knows of me.

    In my experience, the Pavman has not been one to hold back criticism, if he feels it is warranted, but I think his assessment was fair.

    Comment by laura — February 20, 2006 @ 1:30 pm

  12. I was merely trying to comply with her request and to offer my support of the conclusions drawn (and actually try to do some damage control from the words I so boldly signed my name to). I noticed, at the time, that not alot of people did her Nohari window [2], while a much larger amount did her Johari window [7 or so]. I also thought of my own personal experience with members of the opposite sex not taking well to criticism. Furthermore, regardless of my angst at the idea of defending what I wrote, I assumed that she participated in the Nohari excercise in order to understand her true weaknesses in an attempt to improve upon those weaknesses. As for the claptrap that you so abhorrently pointed out, I was merely stepping into the mind of a woman, as I percieved, in order to allay her fears. I’m sure she already realized all of what I wrote; however, I thought by commonly attempting to bond with her in such a manner she would know that I was sympathizing with her, which is something I rarely do with anyone.

    you’re a selfish, narcissistic fool, who took this post as an chance to show your soul to the world like a little teenaged schoolgirl.

    You have no idea what my soul looks like. In fact, from what I posted you can’t even begin to fathom the depths. I hardly think anonymous internet conversations can allow one a glimpse of another’s soul. If I wanted to bare my soul I’d mix poetry and ramblings in with my posts, but then you’d attack me for acting like a girl. Perhaps someone needs to examine her own insecurities when circumstances like this arise.

    As for narcissitic and selfish…well, everyone is selfish from time to time. I hardly think I’m narcissistic. But then, after folks do my Johari/Nohari inventories, then I’ll be more in tune with my strengths and weaknesses. Maybe I am narcissistic and need to work on that. I thank you for your brutal honesty, even if it wasn’t requested.

    You constantly are being the “above the rest of us” which I have let slide due to the fact that I was going at it with Mr. R

    Really? Well thank you. I just assumed my opinion was pretty much ignored about 90% of the time. But hey, if this is how you perceive me, great. Of course, there could be something wrong with your perception.

    I really hope that, for your sake, you were re-directing some anger at me, and not serious.

    Did I really put inane? Hmm, I wonder what I was thinking at the time… The beauty of the test is that all grey areas are cleared up by concensus. So its best with the largest amount of respondents.

    PS
    Greek-derived spellings

    -ise / -ize

    American spelling accepts only organize, recognize, and realize. All other English-speaking countries accept both -ize and -ise spellings. Generally, -ise (organise, recognise, realise) is the preferred spelling in the UK and other Commonwealth countries but -ize endings can be common in the UK with the exception of Canada, where -ize is the preferred choice (although -ise is also considered perfectly acceptable). Outside the US, using -ize is common in academic publishing (Nature, ISO standards). It is rarely used in the mass media and newspapers, which is why it is often incorrectly regarded as an Americanism.”

    Twit.

    Comment by Andrew P. — February 21, 2006 @ 1:15 am

  13. As for the claptrap that you so abhorrently pointed out, I was merely stepping into the mind of a woman, as I percieved, in order to allay her fears.

    Don’t pull that stunt, it never works and only leads to bad blood being born. It’s really annoying when guys try to step into our shoes. Plus you would make a really weird looking female, if I may say so. I don’t know, I keep getting flashes of a rather obvious man walking around in a sundress and it’s really unsettling.

    You have no idea what my soul looks like

    But you have wiped it across the board plenty of times; I thought we were supposed to notice it. So sorry. And by attacking my presuming to know your soul, you bite yourself in the back as you did presume to think you know the female mind. When you obviously know squat about females all-around.

    Perhaps someone needs to examine her own insecurities when circumstances like this arise.

    There you go again! Taking the role of the female! Well deal with your problems at a later date, Mr. P. Right now we’re fighting about Ms. Walker, do try to stay with the topic at hand.

    Btw, “claptrap”…fun word. I need to use it with my friends sometime.

    Comment by Alistair A. — February 21, 2006 @ 8:36 am

  14. Don’t you realize you’re just wasting your own breath (or in this case, moving closer to arthritisville)? There’s nothing wrong with what I said, less your own cultural bias. I can’t help that you are tragically flawed and can’t be mature enough to accept people for who they are, regardless whether the wording is offensive to you. In your own tone: grow up and stop being such a ninny. (oh wait, that was very feminine speak…I hope it was offensive).

    If you think you saw my soul, kudos to you. However, trying to re-direct my comments in ignorance is probably just part of your denial process. Internet forms of expression are great for shielding ourselves from reality and using alter-personas to experience things. But the truth is, as auntlori pointed out with the quizzes, its all BS. Our opinions don’t matter. There’s nothing that will change in the course of history thanks to Laura’s blog. Laura’s blog reads 90% of the time like an opinionated drudge report, without all of the good stories, and 10% of the time with WoT quizzes. Is it my problem that you are the immature one who can’t handle other people ‘being’ in a way you don’t agree with? No, not my problem at all.

    And your ideas about gentlemen…good luck with life in the 21st century.

    To think I held a decent opinion of you. I hadn’t realized you were a viper waiting for your next target to make a mistake that you deemed worthy of attack. The best part of it all is that I’m a man, so your attacks don’t bother me one bit. I just detach all emotion from my intellect and, wallah… I can function without breaking down into tears because you don’t like me or something about me. In fact, I never wanted your approval on anything, and wouldn’t expect you to even understand that.

    Since you are so wise, tell me…. what should I be saying right now? Let’s try some constructive discussions rather than destructive discussions.

    Comment by Andrew P. — February 21, 2006 @ 9:52 am

  15. And, lest we forget, I am not above anyone; if anything, I’m far far below. (find the post that starts with Yes, you might Love the Harry Potter books in the middle of the page).

    Comment by Andrew P. — February 21, 2006 @ 10:13 am

  16. Perhaps Alistair and the Pavman can take the following
    Compatibility test and post the scores for us.

    Comment by FRJTK — February 21, 2006 @ 10:17 am


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