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December 28, 2005

An Unpopular Profession

Filed under: News — lmwalker @ 11:55 am

I applaud the anti-abortion attitude of South Dakota:

The last doctor in South Dakota to perform abortions stopped about eight years ago; the consensus in the medical community is that offering the procedure is not worth the stigma of being branded a baby killer . . .

A 17-member abortion task force, made up largely of staunch abortion opponents, issued recommendations to the Legislature this month . . .

[T]he task force recommends requiring that a woman watch an ultrasound of her fetus, that doctors warn women about the psychological and physical dangers of abortion, and that women receive psychological counseling before the abortion, among other measures . . .

State law forbids any public funding for the $450 procedure.

Although requiring a woman to watch an ultrasound of her fetus seems a little pointless, I see nothing extreme about any of these measures. NARAL is displeased, but I don’t see why they should care if a woman receive psychological counseling or be given the information to make a fully informed decision.

The South Dakotans are applying a useful form of peer pressure. North Dakota and Mississippi are also in the position of having only one abortion provider apiece, thanks to the general public stigma. So, bravo. From a libertarian and utilitarian viewpoint, that’s the proper way to do it.

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12 Comments

  1. North Dakota and Mississippi are also in the position of having only one abortion provider apiece, thanks to the general public stigma.

    I didn’t know “general public stigma” was a euphemism for being threatened at home by right-wing nut jobs. Shows how much I know.

    Comment by Howard — December 28, 2005 @ 4:19 pm

  2. I didn’t know “general public stigma” was a euphemism for being threatened at home by right-wing nut jobs. Shows how much I know.

    ::giggle::

    Comment by auntlori — December 29, 2005 @ 10:39 am

  3. I didn’t know “general public stigma” was a euphemism for being threatened at home by right-wing nut jobs.

    Neither did I. All the article said was that it wasn’t worth it to the doctors to be branded as “baby killers.”

    It’s the same rationale that socially stigmatizes “druggies” or “preppies” or “nerds” or “right-wing nut jobs” or “quack doctors” or “ambulance-chasing lawyers.” No one appreciates labels with negative connotations.

    Comment by laura — December 30, 2005 @ 12:53 pm

  4. IMHO, “druggies” or “preppies” or “nerds” or “right-wing nut jobs” or “quack doctors” or “ambulance-chasing lawyers” don’t get middle of the night phone calls or have their home addresses and phone numbers (or have picture of their kids) published online like MDs who perform abortions.

    Comment by Howard R — December 30, 2005 @ 2:11 pm

  5. Speaking of abortion. I recently saw a young man (in his 20’s or 30’s) crying because the mother of his child aborted his kid. (this even after months from when the child was aborted). The sex of the child was known — it was a boy. The young man was hurt because the woman had an abortion, and he did not want that to happen. I was deeply affected by the emotional pain, tears, and heartfelt sorrow shown by the young man over the loss of his son. While a mother does have the priviledge of picking apart and destroying her own body (fingers, toes, intestines, eyes, stomach, and yes even her own reproductive organs) I think it is quite merciless that she uses these priviledges with her own body to kill the body of an innocent human being growing in her womb.

    Comment by Brian — December 30, 2005 @ 6:48 pm

  6. Too bad, so sad. What are you saying Brian, she should have been forced to carry the pregnancy to term?

    Excuse the bluntness that comes with the fatigue from repeating this, an “innocent human being” had no part in this. It’s a non-sentient bunch of chemical reactions that, assuming everything goes just right, will develop into a human being. She choose to medically abort the pregnancy just like God does thousands and thousands of times every single day.

    If I struck you with, say a baseball bat, in such a way that you lost use of your arm, I’d charged with battery. If I struck you in such a way that your higher brain functions ceased, I’d be charged with murder. See the difference? You’re thinking, thus you’re alive. No higher brain function? You’re not alive.

    The Flying Spaghetti Monster, Jebus, Allah, or whatever you follow may tell you differently but I can’t be expected to argue logically with supernatural beliefs.

    Comment by Howard — December 30, 2005 @ 7:30 pm

  7. Besides the sorrow that this young man expressed. He also expressed anger with the pro-life picketers. He was bitter and angry with them because he felt that they expressed he was responsible to prevent the abortion from happening. His expression to me was how he was powerless to stop the abortion. Both parents considered the act to be murder. Neither parent believed it was just a clump of chemicals. The mother even named her son. Yet, she decided she would rather have an abortion than give birth to her son.

    Comment by Brian — December 30, 2005 @ 8:42 pm

  8. Besides the pro-life sentiments I wish to convey. I also wish to convey to those who read these posts the pain that the men go through when their baby’s mothers have an abortion. This pain is ussually ignored and overlooked. It is often discounted as irrelevant and unimportant. This is how the guy felt. He felt like he had no one to share his pain with — at least not until many months later …. and then only in special circumstances. His pain was deep and heartfelt and caused the young man quite a crisis. For those who are pro-life — please have compassion not just for the babies and the women, but also for the men. Thanks.
    Brian

    Comment by Brian — December 30, 2005 @ 8:49 pm

  9. and I guess if you are a pro-choice person reading these comments. Please remember to have compassion not only for the mothers but also for the father, even if you have no compassion for the babies.
    thanks, Brian.

    Comment by Brian — December 30, 2005 @ 8:51 pm

  10. An unwanted pregnancy is a difficult thing for all involved, no question.

    However, if you’re that fervently anti-choice, why are you having sex with someone who isn’t?

    They very likely considered it a baby. People also considered a road salt stain on a Chicago overpass in which they saw an image of Jesus to be a divine thing. Believing either one still doesn’t makes it so.

    I have plenty of compassion for babies, e.g., cognizant beings. No question about that. Things you could grow in a lab were you to have a petrie dish large enough. . .different story.

    Comment by Howard — December 30, 2005 @ 10:05 pm

  11. I have plenty of compassion for babies, e.g., cognizant beings. No question about that. Things you could grow in a lab were you to have a petrie dish large enough. . .different story.

    I thought that was the whole ethical dilemma posed by The Island.

    Comment by laura — January 1, 2006 @ 3:32 pm

  12. I know I am not to smart when it comes to scientific matters — after all I believe in God – and science has not been able to prove that God exists — so therefore God must not exist. Therefore I must be irrational and illogical for believing in God.

    But if I am not mistaken at one point in time — weren’t we all small enough to fit on and be grown on a petrie dish??

    I know that sounds silly, I don’t have a degree in molecular biology or anything.

    But weren’t we all once small little embryonic individuals that could fit on a petrie dish? If science is true, I think we all were that small, and look, we sure are much bigger and smarter now!! How does science account for the transformation from being little to growing bigger? How does science take into account that the same genes I had when I was a small little tyke are the same genes I have today?

    Certainly science can prove I was a totally different genetic being than than I am today!!

    Or if I am the same being that was once that small little tyke — how does science determine that I am not worthy of sentient thought and should be terminated prematuraly?

    -Brian

    Comment by Brian — January 6, 2006 @ 4:58 pm


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