Tarry for the Nonce

December 14, 2005

Christianity and Social Idiocy?

Filed under: News — lmwalker @ 4:23 pm

In refusing clemency for Stanley Tookie Williams, Arnold Schwarzenegger has caused a bit of a kerfuffle . . . in Austria:

For years in his Austrian homeland the tabloid papers affectionately referred to California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as “Our Arnie.” On Tuesday, after he refused to pardon convicted murderer Stanley Tookie Williams, the headline across one of the country’s largest newspapers was “Terminator” . . .

“Schwarzenegger has a lot of muscles, but apparently not much heart,” said Julien Dray, spokesman for the Socialist Party in France.

But in Austria, there was a sense of betrayal by a native son. In Schwarzenegger’s home province of Styria, liberal Green Party leaders in the provincial capital of Graz moved to strip him of his honorary Graz citizenship and rename the local Arnold Schwarzenegger sports stadium.

To be specific, the Association of Christianity and Social Democracy is moving to rename the Schwarzenegger sports stadium as the “Stanley Tookie Williams” sports stadium.

Now that’s just ridiculous.



  1. Europeans have a different view of capital punishment than Americans do.

    On another note, the Tookie Williams execution brings up an interesting debate: Is society as a whole now better or worse off?

    Comment by Howard — December 14, 2005 @ 8:43 pm

  2. Is society as a whole now better or worse off?

    Personally, I would vote for worse off.

    Comment by laura — December 15, 2005 @ 12:43 am

  3. I agree with Laura.

    Comment by Andrew P. — December 15, 2005 @ 9:13 am

  4. I, too, agree with Ms. Walker. It’s just an easy out for the person in jail.

    Comment by Alistair A. — December 15, 2005 @ 9:21 am

  5. While I can’t speak for Laura, I meant if society was better or worse off because of “Tookie”‘s outspokenness (let’s assume that’s a word) against gangs.

    Comment by Howard R — December 15, 2005 @ 11:03 am

  6. Society was harmed by Tookies crimes against it. Society benefitted by Tookies contributions to it.
    Both are true.

    And showing consistency in ethics. In the case of giving the death penalty, society is worse off for devaluing an individuals life when society has the ability to not commit another murder.

    Comment by Brian — December 16, 2005 @ 10:53 am

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