Tarry for the Nonce

July 23, 2005

Maybe I Need a Catechism Review

Filed under: Anecdotes — lmwalker @ 4:10 pm

I admit with shame that I only got 83% (10/12) correct on a fruits of the Holy Spirit Catholic Quiz.

I tried to be smarter than the tests. I failed.

Update: and I scored a 75% (9/12) on a 4th to 7th commandments Catholic Quiz.

Shame on me.

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3 Comments

  1. 🙂

    I got 11/12 (91%) on the ‘Fruits of the Holy Spirit’ Quiz (Failed the ‘Long-Suffering’ question…ugh, have never heard that term in my life).

    The fruit which reflects patience exercised over a long period of time (an extended trail).

    Answer A: Perseverance
    Answer B: Long-suffering

    As you’ll see below, I disagree with this question as well, as the catechism does not mention long-suffering or long suffering anywhere; however, it does mention perserverance quite frequently, so I think they’re making it up, or its a mistake in the quiz. Besides, if they can’t even take the time to re-read the questions before putting them in the quiz… (see trail above where trial should be).

    So, to me, I got 12/12 on the Fruits of the spirit 🙂

    I got 10/12 (83%) on the ‘Ten Commandments’ quiz.
    However, I disagree with #1:
    The fourth commandment tells us to respect, love, obey (in non-sinful things) and ‘________’ our parents.

    Answer A: honor
    Answer B: help

    Here’s what the Catechism says, and what the actual commandment says:
    Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.4

    He was obedient to them.5

    The Lord Jesus himself recalled the force of this “commandment of God.”6 The Apostle teaches: “Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. ‘Honor your father and mother,’ (This is the first commandment with a promise.) ‘that it may be well with you and that you may live long on the earth.”‘7…For the Lord honored the father above the children, and he confirmed the right of the mother over her sons. Whoever honors his father atones for sins, and whoever glorifies his mother is like one who lays up treasure. Whoever honors his father will be gladdened by his own children, and when he prays he will be heard. Whoever glorifies his father will have long life, and whoever obeys the Lord will refresh his mother.24

    O son, help your father in his old age, and do not grieve him as long as he lives; even if he is lacking in understanding, show forbearance; in all your strength do not despise him. . . . Whoever forsakes his father is like a blasphemer, and whoever angers his mother is cursed by the Lord.25

    So apparently, we must infer that the questions are not just based on the ten commandments, but ALSO on what Christ said. The problem is, honor is apparently the intention here, as help is only indicated ‘in his old age.’

    I disagree with the answer the quiz authors have come up with, so I say I got 11/12 (91%) on this as well. 🙂

    I got question 9 wrong as well, but it was a trick question.
    Sinful companions and curiosity, drinking, immodesty, bad literature/media endanger…

    Answer A: the virtue of chastity
    Answer B: the virtues of modesty and chastity

    The only reason that A is correct above is because modesty is not virtue. Its sophmorish test writing at its finest.

    Comment by Andrew P. — July 23, 2005 @ 5:32 pm

  2. OOPS!

    Didn’t realize this was based on the Balitmore Catechism. The Catechism I reference is the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which, IMHO, is more relevent.

    My apologies to anyone offended for my ignorance of the Baltimore Catechism… its not like I’m in my 50s.

    Comment by Andrew P. — July 23, 2005 @ 5:35 pm

  3. I am almost in my 50’s [I turn 50 in December], did learn the Baltimore Catechism in grammar school (and have taught both Catechisms to my children), and I also checked perseverance. Although I have heard the term long-suffering, — grew up on it, in fact — it seemed to me that, while both terms are fairly synonymous, the second seems to be a part of the first but not necessarily the other way ’round. I scored 91% on the Fruits.

    On the Ten Commandments, I scored 83% and got the question on parental obligations wrong [I learned it as honor too and agree with Andrew].

    My other incorrect response was to this question:

    Some ways of preserving chastity include frequent Holy Communion and confession, prayer, and… devotion to the Blessed Virgin/reading the Bible

    It must be in the Catechism even though I have never heard it specifically before. I would argue that both help in the preservation of chastity.

    I would also offer that neither Catechism contradicts the other but that the new Catechism explains more fully the truths that have always been taught in the Church — as any current explanation of the teachings of the Church should do.

    Comment by auntlori — July 24, 2005 @ 8:20 am


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